Even though he's the best friend of my Andy, I had posted a warning about him in a previous thread as to not trust him around anything of value from what I've heard  But, he certainly IS nice to look at.  Just don't ever play "strip dominoes" with him

These pics were sent courtesy of Ihpguy.

- Drey

I must say he looks terrific ! How " dangerous " is he ? What can happen if one takes him to a motel and pays him a good fee? I am sure he is more expensive than the usual 50 Rz.

Is he still escorting? I haven't  seen him in 117 or 202 for a very long time. Do you have a contact number for him ?

I can understand that one should make sure not to have any valuables near him. But apart from that, does one need to  take other precautions?

These pics were obviously taken a couple of years back, but I will have to say he's very charming.  XChris reported the warning about him, and there are some other posts about him on the board.... so you may want to private message XCrhs. 

For a short term programma, I think he'd be fine as long as your valuables were locked away, but I wouldn't invite him to spend the night or spend a great deal of time with him. 

During my last two visits, Andy has told me he's been visiting Switzerland through a sponsor I'm sure, but he's been known to escort while in Rio.  Sponge Bob had a programma with him for R$ 100, I believe,  in his hotel room.

Don't have a phone number, but if you e-mail me ahead of time, I can get it from Andy I'm sure.

From my understanding, he is "completo", versatile.

- Drey

Why even bother with him and tempt the fates? When a guy has been mentioned more than once as problematic? Take these experienced Brasilhands warnings and stay away. STAY FAR AWAY.  As a tourist, you do not want to start getting involved with drugs, favelas, crime and the police.  There are just too many nice, sweet guys looking for a foreign namorado to get hooked-up with a bad one.  If/when you hear an untruth/doubt take that as a wake-up call.  Others, far more experienced, have been fooled.  Just ain't no reason to pursue this.  

I received these photos in an e-mail and sent them to Drey to do as he wished.  The guy looked familiar to me. Didn't remember from where or when. Definitely not my type. Nothing more to it. But if XChris, who is fluent in Portugues and very experienced in Brasil, as well as Drey's Andy gave similar warnings........drop any thoughts of hooking up.

Stay away!  ihpguy is sooo right! with so many guys available why tempt the fate with one you know for sure is untrustworthy.   I have been with him about 3 years ago and he's fun!  I had a friend who was with him on at least 1/2 dozen occasions, after one visit, but some hours later he couldn't find inexpensive watch he had, but figured he misplaced it, the next time he had him over, after sex,  he paid him and than went to the bathroom, as he was walking out of the bathroom he saw Alex putting his cell phone into  his pocket, he caught him red handed and he wasn't even embarassed, just smiled and left. and this was with a guy who had become a regular client of his.   Too many hot guys to mess with this one!

Thanks TomCal for refreshing my memory.  You would think this guy wouldn't feel the need to steal while being provided free trips to Europe.  But, I guess old habits are hard to break.

And I agree that this guy is not worth taking the risk.  He proudly admitted he is well-connected with the drug lords that run some of the favelas.  So, I would never cross him and was relieved when he's not been in town during recent visits.

He's been very good to Andy, letting him use his computer, buying groceries for him, and Andy thinks he's cute as well.  So Brazilians are enamored with him as well.

But TomCal's right, there's no need to take the risk with this guy when there are so many other gorgeous Brazilians out there.



Here's a link to the other warning about him:

http://www.gaytravelbrazil.com/bboard/view_thread.cfm?postid=1487&forum=52&category=29

- Drey

Iphguy and Tomcal are right. No reason to risk with him. The only way is to take him into a Motel by the hour and dismiss him just after having sex. Somehow this could give you the satisfaction to know him, without the problems of becoming a referral to his plans. But it is difficult to hide away when meeting him, say, at Corujinha or with another friend of his or of yours. 

So the better idea is to forget him at all, or risk something for sure. The level of the risk going up at every new meeting. The real fact is that he belongs to the race of "cute and dangerous", or "nice and with no respect". He imagines himself like someone without fortune, and he feels legitimate to provide personally to get whatever at hand. We cannot pretend them to share our own system of culture and behave. The most of them have no loyalty and respect for themself or their families, imagine for a (supposed) wealthy tourist. In their mind the idea is "they want me and I can take profit from the situation, the more the better !" .

When he was in Switzerland last year he came over and met me in Italy. He suddenly offered me jewels he said was a gift of his swiss patron's daughter. It was not. This year after returning from Europe to Rio with his swiss patron Alex suddenly disappeared, leaving him astonished. The swiss was robbed several times, even by Alex friends from Rocinha with a gun, but he goes on and helps him, letting him rob again and again, because he gets accustumed to having him around. 

He should have told to the police and instead he declared Alex was not involved. We are coloured aquarium fishes, and Rio is an ocean full of sharks. We know it but too often some of us like to forget it. This I think is our part of the guilt. Even in this case, honey and money are strictly connected; some times danger, too. I do not want to imagine what could happen when the gringo finally decides to finish a relationship like this.

Hi XChris, and love your writings as always, especially the metaphor:

We are coloured aquarium fishes, and Rio is an ocean full of sharks.

From all appearances, you would think Alex to be a very charming, attractive young man.  Big smile, nice personality, but looks can be deceiving.

A friend recently told me, "a vampire cannot enter your house, unless you invite them in".   So, be very careful who you invite into your life while you're in Rio.

Brazil is still a wonderful destination, the saunas are amazing, the guys are gorgeous, and the views are spectacular, but never feel like you truly know these guys well enough to completely trust and let down your guard.

And please use this site as a resource to warn others.

Thanks to those that have, and those that hopefully will in the future.

- Drey

XChris is a definite voice of experience, Mandrak.  Doubt him at your peril. He knows what's what. We had some great times together in March.  Between lunches and dinners and meeting Mama, he's great.  Do not ignore what he has written.  There are so many gems of truth in the prose he has contributed.

I assume that you were paying your lover/fuck-buddy for the nightly visits to paradise?  Realize that if you do not pay in one form, you most likely will pay in another.  Not sure if the phrase "buyer beware" is correct here, but...  One definitely must separate friendship from the business transaction. 

Wow....how cum I have never seen him around. 

By the way when needed I always allow my guy to use my razor, but I always change the blade before using the razor. 

Some razor replacments are left in reserved areas in the medicine chest. Should not, there is always another guy who needs one. I hate to go to breakfast unshaved......

Linguister-- I did not quite understand the intent of your post, but the guidance that all of us have been given is to have ALL valuables out of sight and locked if possible when having visitors regardless of your trust level in them. That way all problems can be avoided, and you can enjoy your guest's company without having to worry about your valuables or irreplaceable goods. (Since the goods in the refrigerator cost more from the hotel than they do at the various supermarkets-- I even hide all of this stuff and have my own out which I gladly and politely offer. ...same items but at a lower cost; when I depart the hotel, I will not have a big hotel bill because of the frill items.) But at any rate, always rely on being cautious vs being paranoid!

My Andy just sent an email asking for an x-box...not getting him one, and he said we can still fuck when we get there..."as friends"!